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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 23:54:55 GMT
One oft-misinterpreted rule:
“ The Republicans and Federalists can build from each other's home SCs, and both can build from Savannah.”
Remember that a power still has to own an SC to build there. This means that the two US powers can build in each other’s centers IF they have captured them. So like if the Federalists take Philadelphia, they can build there on a future turn.
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Post by Tolbethessar on Dec 30, 2019 23:57:17 GMT
Re: Snake draft I’m not sure that’s a good fit for 1812 Overture. The three attached positions aren’t part of the snake. In past I’ve used random picks or a version of the “blind auction” method. It has its own downsides but is a decent option too. You can see example rules under the section labeled “Assignment of Powers.” www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=795&t=53914#p879087That's true.I was thinking something along the lines of: First round - 6 players makes a choice Second round - reverse order of 6 players, the 3 attached powers are automatically chosen, while the 3 detached are chosen manually It might be kinda awkward, I don't know... Anyway, I'll go ahead and read up on that link you posted. Thanks  EDIT: Hmm... bidding in secret. That's interesting. 2nd EDIT: Clarification of the snake draft... choose from Group A or B in the first round, then only Group C for manual picks of the second round. |
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Post by Dr. Hendrei Gromsinger on Dec 31, 2019 2:09:51 GMT
Re: Snake draft I’m not sure that’s a good fit for 1812 Overture. The three attached positions aren’t part of the snake. In past I’ve used random picks or a version of the “blind auction” method. It has its own downsides but is a decent option too. You can see example rules under the section labeled “Assignment of Powers.” www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=795&t=53914#p879087That's true.I was thinking something along the lines of: First round - 6 players makes a choice Second round - reverse order of 6 players, the 3 attached powers are automatically chosen, while the 3 detached are chosen manually It might be kinda awkward, I don't know... Anyway, I'll go ahead and read up on that link you posted. Thanks EDIT: Hmm... bidding in secret. That's interesting. 2nd EDIT: Clarification of the snake draft... choose from Group A or B in the first round, then only Group C for manual picks of the second round. I think a sort of mathematical optimizer based on each player ranking their choices might do well. And then repeat the same process with the three players who chose detached powers (for the other detached powers). |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 31, 2019 2:16:33 GMT
I’ve been inspired by you all and am running another session via Discord soon. For that one, I’ve preset the detached power pairs so that I ensure a particular combination (#6) gets some more play testing.
Blind auctions can be a little complicated, but I do find that when run properly, they generally do a good job of matching players to the powers they actually want to play. And they’re fair.
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Post by Tolbethessar on Dec 31, 2019 2:45:41 GMT
I’ve been inspired by you all and am running another session via Discord soon. For that one, I’ve preset the detached power pairs so that I ensure a particular combination (#6) gets some more play testing. Blind auctions can be a little complicated, but I do find that when run properly, they generally do a good job of matching players to the powers they actually want to play. And they’re fair. Get them into here, we could have both games running. |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 31, 2019 3:37:26 GMT
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Post by Tolbethessar on Dec 31, 2019 15:21:12 GMT
Now, time for Fall 1811. You have until 3 PM EST on December 31 to get your orders in. If I've made a mistake somewhere, let me know and it'll be fixed ASAP The tradition of retagging players before the deadline... is continued.  There's slightly under 5 hours left, so if you hadn't got your orders in, please do so. There's a good bit of time left. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Dec 31, 2019 16:23:59 GMT
Now, time for Fall 1811. You have until 3 PM EST on December 31 to get your orders in. If I've made a mistake somewhere, let me know and it'll be fixed ASAP The tradition of retagging players before the deadline... is continued. There's slightly under 5 hours left, so if you hadn't got your orders in, please do so. There's a good bit of time left. I've sent mine as always before the deadline . I'm waiting for the rest o' the boys too. |
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Post by Tolbethessar on Dec 31, 2019 17:58:43 GMT
I've sent mine as always before the deadline . I'm waiting for the rest o' the boys too. But what if you had to update the orders, but you didn't??  That's why a final look at your orders is always a good idea. |
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Post by Santa Anna on Dec 31, 2019 23:14:01 GMT
Fall 1811 is a wrap. Thank you all again for getting your orders in on time. Now, for the fun part: Britain:F Lon-Eng
A Por-MadA Yor Hold Canada:F NAD-HfxA Tor Hold France:F PAR - ENGA ARM - LOR A BAR - MADRhine:A DRE H A BAV - VEN Federalists:FE F Mai - HfxFE A Phi - She Republicans:RE A All S FE A Phi- She RE A Btm S RE A Bu H RE A Bu H Austria:A Wlc Hold A Ily Hold Cherokee:A Cng > Oza A Ust > Cng Russia:A Lvn-Kon A War S Lvn-Kon New Spain:A Tex S Cng-Oza A Sav Hold F Bah-AnC Denmark:A Cop Ams F Stk H Shawnee:A Ken S A Cng-Oza A Wap S A Ken H Map:  Europyrealm , you need to disband a Republican unit, since you have 3 units and only 2 supply centers. Same applies for Frederick the Great Otherwise, it's build time. For Winter 1811, the allowed builds are as follows: Britain: None Canada: 1 France: None Rhine: 1 Republicans: None Federalists: 1 Russia: 2 New Spain: 2 Austria: 1 Cherokee: 1 Denmark: 2 Shawnee: 1 Have your builds (and the 1 disband) in by 6 PM EST on January 2. If I've made a mistake, let me know. Happy New Year! tpc Frederick the Great Carlos III Victor Katz Europyrealm Dr. Hendrei Gromsinger |
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Post by Dr. Hendrei Gromsinger on Jan 1, 2020 3:29:09 GMT
Wait, wait, Santa Anna Since the Federalists only held Philly during a Spring phase, not at the end of Fall, the SC still belongs to the Republicans, so there's no disbanding to do. On the flip side, with the Danes controlling AMS, you'd need to see a disbandment from France. |
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Post by Santa Anna on Jan 1, 2020 3:52:45 GMT
Wait, wait, Santa Anna Since the Federalists only held Philly during a Spring phase, not at the end of Fall, the SC still belongs to the Republicans, so there's no disbanding to do. On the flip side, with the Danes controlling AMS, you'd need to see a disbandment from France. The Republicans didn't retake the SC, though. Does that not mean the Federalists keep it? Though I did overlook the French disbandment |
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Post by Tolbethessar on Jan 1, 2020 4:02:49 GMT
Wait, wait, Santa Anna Since the Federalists only held Philly during a Spring phase, not at the end of Fall, the SC still belongs to the Republicans, so there's no disbanding to do. On the flip side, with the Danes controlling AMS, you'd need to see a disbandment from France. The Republicans didn't retake the SC, though. Does that not mean the Federalists keep it? Though I did overlook the French disbandment is correct. Ownership of the SC hadn't changed hands from the original, because spring movements do not have any impact on who owns the SC, only the fall ones do. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Jan 1, 2020 5:58:17 GMT
Well this is.... awkward.
Disband a unit in France, only to rebuild the same unit in Germany?
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Post by Tolbethessar on Jan 1, 2020 6:10:40 GMT
Well this is.... awkward. Disband a unit in France, only to rebuild the same unit in Germany? Sort of... you lost a SC to Denmark (so you got a 4-SC neighbor now), and you miss out on an opportunity to make gains in the big picture. Sorry Napo, but it's not over though. |
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