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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 15:08:06 GMT
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Post by Frederick the Great on Dec 30, 2019 15:11:50 GMT
Hi everyone, I'm Alex Ronke, the creator of the variant. I have a number of example games posted if you would like to see how I've colored the maps in the past. There are four sessions posted on the PlayDiplomacy forums. I GM'd all but one of them. www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=838Note that there were changes made to the rules and setup between forum Game 1 and forum Game 2. There are a few other sessions' albums I can share from prior game versions. Welcome to the forum Alex, I'm quite plesantly surprised we found out the creator of the game!  Share whatever you would feel like over here, we can certainly use (and take inspiration as well from) the older games on this map. |
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Post by Victor Katz on Dec 30, 2019 15:38:05 GMT
Oh man, this is so cool! I'm very excited that the guy who created the game we're playing has found this little place. Like Frederick the Great said, many, many welcomes to this "Small Realm".  |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 15:46:26 GMT
So in total, there have been ten sessions of the game. Yours will be the eleventh. It will also be the sixth game played under the latest (fifth) version of the rules, which I've allowed to remain stable for greater playtesting. Here's the album for Session 8, which is what is labeled "PbF-4", since it was the fourth Play by Forum session of 1812 Overture on Playdiplomacy. Incidentally, we have a fairly thriving play-by-forum game community with several GMs there. And we have a massive archive of past games.
This is the album for Session 6, which was part of a yearlong multi-variant tournament I ran in 2018. You'll need to scroll past the maps for the first game, Ambition & Empire, to get to the 1812 Overture match.
Session 7 [PbF-3] was run by a different GM, and I don't know if he has an easily-scrolled-through imgur album of the game, but you can see it in our forum.
Sessions 9 and 10 were both played face-to-face, and I don't have albums of them.
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These albums are for earlier versions of the rules:
Session 5 (play-by-forum, rules v3)
Session 4 (play-by-email, rules v3) (album missing, may find later)
Session 2 (play-by-email, rules v2)
Session 1 (play-by-email, rules v1, alpha testing)
Note that there were no playtests of rules v4; I ended up scrapping those entirely and went in a different direction for rules v5.
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 15:57:14 GMT
Here's a good reference chart which you may or may not find useful. Sometimes the adjacency around the Great Lakes and Cadiz can get a bit confusing.  |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 16:00:34 GMT
One question: for the three detached powers, what are the pairings? Is it Denmark-Shawnee, Austria-Cherokee, Russia-New Spain?
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Post by Frederick the Great on Dec 30, 2019 16:31:32 GMT
One question: for the three detached powers, what are the pairings? Is it Denmark-Shawnee, Austria-Cherokee, Russia-New Spain? Indeed it is. I assume you've already seen the sign-up thread of this game. Oh and sadly the picture you've posted isn't showing up for some reason. And yes I believe all of us here have heard about the famous PlayDip site, the old and trusted! And ours by comparison is rather "sparsely-populated"  |
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Post by Tolbethessar on Dec 30, 2019 16:37:13 GMT
One question: for the three detached powers, what are the pairings? Is it Denmark-Shawnee, Austria-Cherokee, Russia-New Spain? Yes, it's those pairings. Were they the most common outcome? This signup thread has the player roster and the pairings thesmallrealm.proboards.com/thread/72/1812-overture-signup-threadAnd as others have already said, your appearance in our forum is a welcome surprise. Thank you for your interest in this particular game. I'm glad you're around and monitoring. |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 17:53:29 GMT
Oh and sadly the picture you've posted isn't showing up for some reason. It's showing up for me on multiple browsers. If you still aren't seeing it, try here: |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 18:38:06 GMT
One question: for the three detached powers, what are the pairings? Is it Denmark-Shawnee, Austria-Cherokee, Russia-New Spain? Yes, it's those pairings. Were they the most common outcome?
So you're probably the first game of 1812 Overture I've seen where the players seem to be picking powers via first-come-first-serve. As such, I'm not surprised Russia & New Spain were chosen early, as that's a combo that can become a superpower on the board rather quickly (to such an extent that it may even require a nerf in a future rules version, though I'm not sure exactly what that would look like).
Other games have assigned powers either totally randomly or via blind auction.
There are six possible permutations of detached pairs: - AU+CH, DN+NS, RU+SH
- AU+CH, DN+SH, RU+NS
- AU+NS, DN+CH, RU+SH
- AU+NS, DN+SH, RU+CH
- AU+SH, DN+CH, RU+NS
- AU+SH, DN+NS, RU+CH
Of the nine games I have full records for, this is the third time that exact set of pairings, #2 above, has arisen. One of those times was a chance occurrence, with powers drawn out of a hat.
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Post by Dr. Hendrei Gromsinger on Dec 30, 2019 18:40:19 GMT
Yes, it's those pairings. Were they the most common outcome?
So you're probably the first game of 1812 Overture I've seen where the players seem to be picking powers via first-come-first-serve. As such, I'm not surprised Russia & New Spain were chosen early, as that's a combo that can become a superpower on the board rather quickly (to such an extent that it may even require a nerf in a future rules version, though I'm not sure exactly what that would look like).
Other games have assigned powers either totally randomly or via blind auction.
There are six possible permutations of detached pairs: - AU+CH, DN+NS, RU+SH
- AU+CH, DN+SH, RU+NS
- AU+NS, DN+CH, RU+SH
- AU+NS, DN+SH, RU+CH
- AU+SH, DN+CH, RU+NS
- AU+SH, DN+NS, RU+CH
Of the nine games I have full records for, this is the third time that exact set of pairings, #2 above, has arisen. One of those times was a chance occurrence, with powers drawn out of a hat.
I'll admit that I chose RU and NS for the sake of their defensive corner positions. I happen to be a little rusty (first dip game in over a year), so I wanted that secure opposite-corner posture. Also, the position forces me to think about everyone, which is part of the fun, right? |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 19:45:21 GMT
I'll admit that I chose RU and NS for the sake of their defensive corner positions. I happen to be a little rusty (first dip game in over a year), so I wanted that secure opposite-corner posture. Also, the position forces me to think about everyone, which is part of the fun, right? I absolutely think it's a fun position to play, and I look forward to seeing how you all think through it and the other pairings on the board. Sometimes being the early leader can paint a target on your back! |
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Post by Tolbethessar on Dec 30, 2019 19:49:28 GMT
Yes, it's those pairings. Were they the most common outcome? So you're probably the first game of 1812 Overture I've seen where the players seem to be picking powers via first-come-first-serve. As such, I'm not surprised Russia & New Spain were chosen early, as that's a combo that can become a superpower on the board rather quickly (to such an extent that it may even require a nerf in a future rules version, though I'm not sure exactly what that would look like). I would've thought it be easier to form up a joint control between the two detached powers as being: Austria & New Spain. It's a strong position in potentially dominating the Mediterranean sea (assuming that NS doesn't lose Cadiz to UK).
Suppose there's a snake draft, would that work? |
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Post by Dr. Hendrei Gromsinger on Dec 30, 2019 20:03:45 GMT
I'll admit that I chose RU and NS for the sake of their defensive corner positions. I happen to be a little rusty (first dip game in over a year), so I wanted that secure opposite-corner posture. Also, the position forces me to think about everyone, which is part of the fun, right? I absolutely think it's a fun position to play, and I look forward to seeing how you all think through it and the other pairings on the board. Sometimes being the early leader can paint a target on your back! ELS (Early Leader Syndrome) is definitely a hazard. Gotta keep my allies reassured. |
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Post by nopunin10did on Dec 30, 2019 23:15:15 GMT
Re: Snake draft I’m not sure that’s a good fit for 1812 Overture. The three attached positions aren’t part of the snake. In past I’ve used random picks or a version of the “blind auction” method. It has its own downsides but is a decent option too. You can see example rules under the section labeled “Assignment of Powers.” www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=795&t=53914#p879087 |
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