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Post by tpc on Feb 27, 2019 22:18:29 GMT
When y'all finish Geneva. That is to say, when a treaty comes out or when y'all decide to scrap negotiations altogether.
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Post by Tolbethessar on Mar 3, 2019 1:17:09 GMT
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Post by Tolbethessar on Mar 4, 2019 1:47:50 GMT
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 4, 2019 4:57:17 GMT
Apparently North Vietnam is into no covfefe |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 4, 2019 10:01:47 GMT
Cao Van Vien and the rest of the Delegation are serious, they will leave the Convention if North Vietnam stubbornly refuses even to the plan currently on the table.
Just letting y'all know in advance.
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Post by tpc on Mar 4, 2019 13:08:32 GMT
Okay, since there's actually a possibility of the negotiations failing:
You can choose to scrap the negotiations. A state of war will continue to exist between SV and NV, though we will see an unilateral French pullout and a British declaration of neutrality.
Your political positions will be harmed domestically (that is to say, support for your government will decline), especially those who are viewed to have had a large role in making the negotiations fail.
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 4, 2019 14:22:46 GMT
Okay, since there's actually a possibility of the negotiations failing: You can choose to scrap the negotiations. A state of war will continue to exist between SV and NV, though we will see an unilateral French pullout and a British declaration of neutrality. Your political positions will be harmed domestically (that is to say, support for your government will decline), especially those who are viewed to have had a large role in making the negotiations fail. South Vietnam rather would give up that bait that we had occupied in exchange for total communist elimination in the South. I always had plans to return that territory, in exchange for communist removal down South, that is exactly what happened here. |
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Post by Tolbethessar on Mar 8, 2019 5:01:38 GMT
USA: A cover story ran in the New York Times has accused South Vietnam of snubbing USA in the Geneva Conference. This has led to a comfortable Democratic gain in the midterms, creating the threat of a divided government come 1955. The administration can compromise with the hawkish Democrats led by current Senate Minority Leader LBJ or the doves led by Independent Senator Wayne Morse to secure a majority. Effect: USA must face a no-confidence vote (min 3) next turn, or have a no-confidence vote now and gain a +1 buff by increasing or decreasing commitment.For clarity... a regular no-confidence vote is a roll aiming for 3 or better, right? But with a buff, then it would be a roll of 2 or better to suceed if I'm setting a change of the commitment level? I hope I'm not reading this wrong. |
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Post by tpc on Mar 8, 2019 5:04:02 GMT
Yup
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Post by tpc on Mar 8, 2019 9:52:52 GMT
Frederick the Great , you can have a monarchy in South Vietnam, but please tell how you'd get rid of Diem (who wanted a republic).
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 8, 2019 10:12:30 GMT
Frederick the Great , you can have a monarchy in South Vietnam, but please tell how you'd get rid of Diem (who wanted a republic). By using the exact same measures Diem used against the Emperor. And also by declaring all citizens equal (including Buddhists and Catholics), something Diem didn't do |
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Post by Tolbethessar on Mar 8, 2019 21:14:24 GMT
Frederick the Great , you can have a monarchy in South Vietnam, but please tell how you'd get rid of Diem (who wanted a republic). By using the exact same measures Diem used against the Emperor. And also by declaring all citizens equal (including Buddhists and Catholics), something Diem didn't do Go ahead put in some details on how it happen in your turn |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 9, 2019 12:11:27 GMT
By using the exact same measures Diem used against the Emperor. And also by declaring all citizens equal (including Buddhists and Catholics), something Diem didn't do Go ahead put in some details on how it happen in your turn I think we should act upon it the next phase as the actual referendum too took place in 1955. If GM refuses this request then I'll add about referendum in the current year's post |
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Post by Tolbethessar on Mar 9, 2019 14:28:50 GMT
Go ahead put in some details on how it happen in your turn I think we should act upon it the next phase as the actual referendum too took place in 1955. If GM refuses this request then I'll add about referendum in the current year's post Well it's just that you basically announced the monarchy government already. Might as well follow through on his request and input some details about how it's reasonable for SV to go this way (as opposed to the other way, etc). This is a RP, so the more embellishments you fill in and fluff things up, oh and the prettier it is, the better-er it is! 
Edit: Letting the GM know... tpc, I'm having a personal struggle in RL during this weekend. I had hoped to be able to post my turn today, but I think I'll do better on either Monday or Tuesday. If I happen to have only a half turn done on Monday, I will go ahead and post it then edit it on Tuesday. |
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Post by Frederick the Great on Mar 10, 2019 9:03:58 GMT
Added this to my latest turn:
In October of the same year, a meeting is held by the 18-member cabinet of the Prime Minister, Ngo Dinh Diem, the meeting also includes Major General Tran Van Minh of the Air Force as Advisor to the Prime Minister by the Air Force, Brigadier Le Van Hung as Advisor to the Prime Minister by the Army and Commander Le Quang as Advisor to the Prime Minister by the Navy.
The military officers make their demands clear to the Prime Minister in private. He will NOT transition the country to a Republic and he will draft the constitution of the Nation declaring all Vietnamese in the country to be equal. Failing to do so the military shall leak his previous records of collaboration with the Japanese, Communists and even with the Americans and will do whatever it takes to tarnish his, his Party's and his family's reputation. If he complies, the power will be in his hands as a result and authority to give his approval over promotion of Colonels and Generals as well will be given over to him.
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